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Montes Seeks Board of Ed Seat

Glenn Montes plans to run against current Board of Education President Steve Gellar.

West Islip resident Glenn Montes has submitted nomination petitions to run for the Board of Education against current BOE President Steve Gellar.

Montes, a frequent , regularly expresses his opinions about the West Islip School District, particularly on issues such as and the .

has served on West Islip's board since 2006 and was re-elected in 2009 when he ran unopposed.

Nomination petitions for all board trustee seats are due by Monday, April 16.

In addition to the seat currently held by Gellar, the seat currently held by Trustee Michael Zotto will also be contested in next month's election. It was not known if Zotto is planning to seek re-election.

The district's Meet The Candidate night is scheduled for Monday, May 7.

Patch will provide more information about the board of education elections as well as candidates over the next few weeks.

Anna April 10, 2012 at 04:40 PM
Joseph, talk about flip flopping - you are the one who is all over the place. First you say you cannot officially ask questions without being present at a meeting and asking publicly, then you say that you ask your questions by email and superintendent open office hours, then you say Mr. Montes does not have any accurate information because he never asked a question in public at a meeting. If you ask your questions and get your answers via private conversations, why do you presume that just because Mr. Montes is not "on the record" that he has not asked and gotten answers in private as well? And why is it okay for you to ask questions out of the public eye, but it would not be okay for someone to send in a question via technology while a meeting is taking place, and have that question read aloud and answered on the record? Seems like that would be a lot more "official" than the way you are doing it. And it is not all about getting answers to your questions. It is about having access to everything that transpires at a meeting when you are prevented from being able to attend in person. There are some very real and valid reasons that prevent people from being able to attend each and every meeting in person, and in this day and age of technology, there is no reason why these people should be precluded from knowing what's going on.
Anna April 10, 2012 at 04:43 PM
The official board minutes are not published until a month after the meeting takes place, and they only tell part of the story. There is definitely so much more that could be done to give access to those who want to be informed but are not available at a particular hour on a particular day of any given month. Anyone wishing to take transparency to the next level here has definitely got my vote.
Marianne Bowden April 10, 2012 at 06:13 PM
Not sure if this is the proper place to post this but check out Save Long Island Schools on Facebook. It has a lot of info about what is going on all over the Island and info about NYS and what they are and arent giving to LI schools. Good articles and points of view.
Sally April 10, 2012 at 08:03 PM
Excellent points, Joseph and Terry. I appreciate your insight and point of view.
Rich April 10, 2012 at 10:02 PM
So many many questions and so few answers. Can a commercial business be run in a residential zone? Are Kirdady and Westbrook zoned commercial or residential? If they are commercial, do we want a commercial business in our neighborhoo instead of our schools? Previously we leased to only to another school, BOCES. That is much different than leasing to a commercial business. Again why did we close Westbrook rather than Oqenock? Shouldn't it be more important for our students to get the larger school than to pick a more marketable building for a "potential" business? Has a lease already been signed or promised to a business which is why the BOE won't budge on their decision to close two Elementary Schools? How much money will actually be saved by closing two the Elementary Schools now that we have discovered that we can only layoff 7 teachers rather than 16, we must pay for buses to redistrict the displaced students, we must pay construction costs to create new classrooms in Bellew and Oquenok, and the cost for maintenance and utilities for the vaccant buildings is substantial? The BOE's decision has split the community, caused emotional trauma to our children, decreased the educational quality of our Elementary Schools, and put the passage of the budge in severe jeopardy. How much much money will this poison pill option actually save our district when all the cost are finally taken into account, maybe one million???
Larry April 11, 2012 at 01:47 AM
m maya in all due respect who the hell are the unions to review and dictate. this is our district that has watched their property taxes go up tremendously over the last 10 years due primarily to school budgets period. if a company costs increase more than the revenues generated than cuts have got to come.
Larry April 11, 2012 at 01:47 AM
you don't cut the product being produced which in this case would be our children. you cut benefits to employees plain and simple. you make cuts to compensation or you lose your job its that simple. to give pay increases every year no matter what the economic enviroment is, is financial suicide. i understand these people are taxpayers too and it sucks that there needs to be cuts, but the numbers are the numbers, how are you gonna keep increasing benefits when the money is not there. every single cut your kids received this year, that money went directly into the pocket of someone who works at the schools. schools do not produce aproduct that brings in revenues, they are not making apple ipods that generate billions of dollars. school systems rely on the ability of its taxpayer for their revenues, when the taxpayer is tapped out as in this case benefits must go. how do you feel taking an education away from your children to fund anothers benefits. i don't like taking things away but don't you think that maybe just maybe things have gotten a little out of hand. its not up to the unions to dictate what we will pay for our employees, this is not their district it is ours we say what we will pay we set the scale and if you don't like it well im sorry i guess you can find another job in a higher paying district. the economy is in shambles we would not lose one employee
Walter Isaacs April 11, 2012 at 02:29 AM
@Larry, do you suggest the teachers be paid like the foxconn workers making iPods? Or, you seem to favor the day laborer model, we will have the teachers stand at 711 and the overseer can pick and choose the lowest paid, we'll load em up in a bus and be good to go. Is a contract at or below inflation so extreme?Pensions are not an award, nor reward, but are part of the compensation negotiated among the parties of the contract. That Larry is how adults come to agreement, they negotiate. Avg salary for teachers is $65k and pensions are$30k. I fail to see how your neighbors are so evil. Those pensions keep people off food stamps and cat food, they are not funding African safaris. Maybe it is a revenue problem, m/billionaires pay income tax @15% where we pay 25-30% remember, much of the increase is due to pension costs, and the pension is solvent, but took a beating because wall street rating agencies rated junk as gold, and btw when wall street banks had our economy on the ropes what did they do? Handed out bonuses.
Jason H April 11, 2012 at 03:25 AM
To be fair, it is very easy to bash the unions right now but why are you Glenn, so hell bent on taking them down? How do you know who cares or doesn't care about the community? I know that some of my neighbors have benefited from donations from West Islip teachers. They also have a fund set up for families of children that cannot afford the cost of field trips. I know this because my kid got to go on a trip I was unable to pay for. They have also made donations to families that have suffered unfortunate circumstances and more than likely contribute to most community organizations. To say they don't care about the taxpayer is short-sighted. I think you do insult the teachers when you say you support them and then speak of your disdain for their professional organization.
Walter Isaacs April 11, 2012 at 04:36 AM
Mr. Moneys, are you still a dues paying member of the Conservative Society for Action? Would you please explain their "take back our schools" program. As a member of the boe would you work to further their agenda and require the curriculum to teach global warming is a hoax? Would the curriculum reflect the group's position that sustainable growth is really a government land grab for private property? Does the CSA have a platform regarding creationism?
Larry April 11, 2012 at 04:39 AM
walter do you suggest that we pay our teachers 200k per year because at the rate of increase that currently stands we will be their soon enough. you regurgitate the same thing about the ratings agencies however were those ratings agencies not being overseen by the SEC?? So what is the government oversight that failed to catch the fraud, Listen this is not where the conversations should be, walter I may sound like I am against unions, i am not. they serve a purpose although i do think the pendulum has swung a little to far. my point is where do we get the money to keep the current system going. so my question to you walter is, instead of blaming everyone what would you do. you have posted here numerous time with not one solution. the cbo has said raising taxes on the top 1 percent to the 40% bracket raises only 47billion dollars, the national debt is increasing 1 trillion per year. so take your 47 billion what elses you going to do.. Also education spending in this country has quadruppled in the last 25 years yet we have gotten no return on our money, the US has been consistently dropping on the education charts yet we spend more per pupil than any other country. this goes to show that flinging money at the problem has not produced a better product. more to the point is what would walter do right now to no longer cut our childrens programs and not raise taxes on the west islip resident.
Concerned April 11, 2012 at 10:29 AM
First Walter, the teaches ARE not paid or treated like Foxconn workers. Quite the opposite. This said, what is being discussed here is raining in the out of control costs and spending. With a budget of $60 million in salaries, $20 million in benefits out of a total of $107 million. Is it not obvious that comp and bene's will need adjusting in order to secure a sustainable educational system. More to the point, our neighbors in Deer Park have managed to undo the deferred increases to their TA. Why hasn't our current board leadership been more successful ? The Deer Park School District has announced a contract agreement with the Deer Park Teachers’ Association that will save the district millions and continue to support a high level of instruction. Through collaborative efforts between the Board of Education, Superintendent of Schools and Teachers’ Association, the modifications will reduce costs by $1.2 million through the elimination of a deferred 3% raise that was set to go into effect for the 2012-13 school year. In addition, teachers have taken advantage of a retirement incentive, which will save district taxpayers an additional $1.5 million. As a result of these substantial savings, the district will not have to excess teachers or eliminate programs in order to meet budgetary.
wiseol'owl April 11, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Although the Strudy Group and BAC are wonderful political tools, I have seen nor heard any evidence that would indicate them to be formed as "true" contributing factors to the school district. What I have seen and heard from those who have served on the commities is that the Study Group were given the final outcomes in regarding to school closure possibilites, I have seen the BOE disregard even their own Superintendents advice in regards to building closures and give less than adequate consideration to the so called "communites choice" of the closure of 1 ES and MS. Of the BAC I've heard that they were instructed by Steve Gellar that it was a non-binding group and that while suggestions may be made they may not be used. I was told as well that he instructed them that only 20% of the budget; the portion that mostly consists of student services was the only portion to be reveiwed. In other words both groups appear to me to have been established as a "C.O.A" operation by the BOE. A smoke screen to be able to say to the unpopular decisions that were made that the BOA established the groups to ensure 'public participation'. So it is very sad Steve that you would use an "inside" the room statement made by Mr. Montes against him considering that per Steve Gellars own instructions student service cuts would have to be discussed.
Wendy Regan April 11, 2012 at 02:04 PM
Does anyone know what Mr. Gellar's platform is? I only speak for myself when I state that I would be interested in knowing FROM MR. GELLAR what Mr. Gellar is for or against. At least this way West Islip would have more information about Mr. Gellar's ideas for WISD's future instead of basing them on the past decisions Mr. Gellar has made for our district.
Jessica Horvath April 12, 2012 at 02:55 PM
Wendy I thought that other schools had brought back the JV 9 sports but only boys basketball and football. Mr. Horan felt that it wouldn't be fair to the girls and boys that played other sports. I thought that is what they said. So technically, they really don't have anyone else to play. Unless they are playing boys basketball and football.
Jessica Horvath April 12, 2012 at 02:57 PM
There are no JV 9 sports as of right now, so what do we need MS sports for? So the kids can play in 7th and 8th grade and then ....what......????? Do nothing in 9th?
MomWI April 12, 2012 at 09:16 PM
BTW - does anyone else find it just a little creepy that Walter is shirtless in his bio pic?
Rich April 12, 2012 at 09:47 PM
I agree with Concerned. Maybe if "our BOE" and "our Superintendent" had taken a few tips from the Deer Park School District and worked WITH our Teachers, we wouldn't be closing schools, redistricting little children, packing student into nonexistent classrooms, cutting BOCES. and throwing the community into turmoil.
lilly April 13, 2012 at 12:12 AM
very much so kind of strange!
Rich April 13, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Maybe he "lost his shirt" due to the high taxes.
freddie April 14, 2012 at 01:56 PM
now thats very funny! lol!
Scott Ellis April 16, 2012 at 12:44 AM
I love how Glenn Montes has been bashing teachers and unions on Patch for a few years but now that he is running for BOE he posts a blog "praising" the teachers his kids have had. Talk about fake.
LITTLE INDIAN April 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Glen for circus director
wiseol'owl April 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Gotta laugh when the incumbents picture and ad are pasted directly above the challengers face on the challengers article. Also if Mr.Gellar truly is the "most postive influence of 2011" shouldn't his 6th year on the board speak for itself without a marketing ploy??
Larry April 16, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Ahh Little Indian is back with the comedy show. To bad they offer no solution, never an idea just rhetoric. love it .
Terry Gebbia April 16, 2012 at 06:45 PM
Maybe offensive isn't the appropriate word. What I was trying to convey is that most people have the same or similar commitments as you listed for reasons to not attend meetings and yet they continue to make the choice to take the time to attend BOE meetings.
Walter Isaacs April 18, 2012 at 01:10 AM
Larry, as per your earlier request, I will try to keep it simple, a loaf of bread used to be a nickel. I imagine that one day teachers will hit 200k, but today, they average 65. I do not think they are the evil people you and Mr. Montes make them out to be. Perhaps it is that we had one war of choice and we spend more on defense than all other countries combined. Between 1992-2008 the richest 400 in the US have seen their income increase by an average of 392% while their tax rate has dropped 37% (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/08intop400.pdf) I could go on but I know you have a hard time following complex thoughts and you get easily confused by facts.
Walter Isaacs April 18, 2012 at 01:46 AM
Sorry ladies, I did not mean to offend, but had done some manscaping that day I had joined PATCH and happened to load that pic. I thought it was such a small thumbnail that no one would take notice. Otherwise, I thought the lighting was good and it really showed off my features. I hope that the silly picture would not distract or otherwise put the real questions of this candidate in JEOPARDY. The real questions at hand, are not whether you prefer Food King Kitchen or Panda Garden, but the ones Mr. Montes has chosen to ignore. Were his business dealings a lack of due diligence? Is he a dues paying member of the Conservative Society for Action? As a member of the boe would he work to further their agenda and require the curriculum to teach that global warming is a hoax? Would the curriculum reflect the group's position that sustainable growth is really a government land grab for private property? Does the CSA have a platform regarding creationism?
Nomo Bigelow April 18, 2012 at 02:16 AM
Right on, Walter. Tea party enthusiasts like Larry and Glenn Montes will stop at nothing to keep a firm foot on the throat of the working man. Cut the string on the tea bag and let it float to the bottom of the bowl. VOTE FOR GELLAR!!!!!!
LITTLE INDIAN April 18, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Montes for cruise director

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