New Elementary Boundary Info Hits WI Homes

Letters inform parents which school their youngsters will be attending in September.

Update, 6:30 p.m. Friday: the elementary school redistricting maps are now live on the school district website.

Parents across West Islip on Friday began receiving information about the school district’s new elementary boundaries and which school their child will be attending in September.

In a letter from Richard Simon, school superintendent, he said that because of the closing of Paul E. Kirdahy at Captree and Westbrook elementary schools, the district has redrawn the elementary school attendance boundaries, which will be effective July 1.

Also in the letter Simon suggested to parents to check the school district’s website under the “Redistricting Update” link for specific details about the new boundaries. The page as of Friday afternoon had yet to be updated, but a message on the website said the boundary map will be live on Saturday.

“Additional information will follow in the coming weeks with regard to school orientation and transition activities,” Simon wrote in the letter.

Earlier this year, the board of education as part of an effort to address West Islip’s declining elementary student population and to bring the school district in line with the state’s tax levy cap.

At the start of the current budget formation process for the 2012-13 school year, school officials said the district was approximately $6 million over the cap.

Wendy Regan May 03, 2012 at 12:30 PM
I don't need to SEARCH for a 'smoking gun' as the ever deteriorating condition of our school district (financially and educationally) is all the proof our town needs that the current members of the boe need to be replaced. I'm not sure at what point George, Jack, Annmarie, Debra, Sally, Jim, Chris and Walter decided to appoint me Mr. Montes's mouthpiece, as I know that Mr. Montes is quite able to speak for himself. I would say to all of you "Why don't you ask him to his face at meet the candidate night" as you said to me when I inquired why suddenly Mr. Gellar refuses to make any comment, but I know Mr. Montes is the candidate who believes in letting his fellow West Islipers know WHAT THE TRUTH IS instead of playing the "no comment" guessing / assuming / attacking game which the incumbent seems to be doing.
Wendy Regan May 03, 2012 at 02:22 PM
Walter, thank you for your taxpac link. I've discovered some things you, Debra and Jack failed to disclose (surprise, surprise): The taxpac site doesn't promote closings of schools, laying offf teachers or cancelling after school activities as Jack's 5/3 post suggests. From your link, did any of you notice that Glenn is a member of Suffolk County 9-12 project? Here's some info from that website: The 9/12 Project: The 9 Principles 1. America Is Good. 2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life. 3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday. Honesty “I hope that I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider to be the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man.” George Washington 4. The family is sacred. 5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it. 6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results. 7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. 8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion. 9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me. Who works for whom? The 12 Values:* Honesty* Reverence* Hope* Thrift* Humility* Charity* Sincerity* Moderation* Hard Work* Courage* Personal Responsibility* GratitudeThe Suffolk County 9-12 Project is dedicated to bringing about political change through peaceful means.
West Islip Resident May 03, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Rich, when exactly did you 'ask" Mr Gellar any of these questions? I have been at a number PTA budget presentations over the past 2 weeks, and Mr. Gellar has been on hand to answer questions. I have not heard you stand up and ask him any of these "questions, allegations, or rumors". If you think by posting here you are having your voice heard to the people who can answer you, then i suggest you may be mistaken. This is not a school district forum. this is a community forum. mr montes choose to use this forum to get his message out,he is a blogger here. i do not believe mr gellar has ever posted on patchnor would it be appropriate for him to do so. mr montes has been MIA since walter exposed his csa/taxpac connections. i mean, he has to own up to that, not run from it, its why people see him as a flip flopper. last year he posted blogs calling the residents "selfish" for wanting small class sizes and sports programs. Then he changed his tune and his writing became more moderate once he decided to run for the board. so i guess the question is who is the real glen montes. i suggest to you that his obvious political ties speaks to a greater political agenda, and that has no place in the education of our children.
Jack Latch May 03, 2012 at 03:57 PM
Wendy......That's all terrific.....my concern is that if Mr Montes is a member of Taxpac (which you are now acknowledging ?)......it will have a DIRECT correlation to how he will make decisions if he gets elected.......
Jack Latch May 03, 2012 at 05:07 PM
that's all very interesting Wendy.....I know very little about the 9/12 project......but I have seen Taxpac in action.......being a member of Taxpac directly correlates to whether you should be on the BOE.......If Montes is a Taxpacer (as you now seem to acknowledge ) we should not vote for him......Taxpac is bad news for the kids in town.....
Wendy Regan May 03, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Dear Jack, As a previous poster noted, Mr. Montes is a blank slate where as Steve Gellar has years and years of boe decisions and their ramifications working against him. As I have said before and will say again, although you have crowned me Mr. Montes's mouthpiece, I am not. I cannot speak for anyone's political views other than my own. However, since you're so knowledgeable about politics and seemed to have appointed yourself as the worldly-elder of WI and will now be judging AND proclaiming what are "direct correlations" for the rest of us, is Steve Gellar a Democrat or Republican? Has Mr. Geller ever voted against his own political party? But what I really want to know, what's really going to tell if Steve Gellar's views "directly correlate" with being entitled to another boe term is: Is Steve Gellar pro-life?
Jack Latch May 03, 2012 at 08:44 PM
dear Wendy....who cares ?......TAXPAC is all about 'taking back our schools"......being a Republican or a Democrat means nothing.....being a member of TAXPAC means everything when it comes to BOE business.......i get that you are angry with the current BOE, but if the alternative is to give TAXPAC a foothold in WI, you should be careful what you wish for........by the way the name calling and nasty insinuations are really not necessary.....
c cronin May 03, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Love ya Wendy. Mrs.Krusty
focus on education May 03, 2012 at 10:43 PM
As a parent who believes in high educational standards that prepare students for success in college and life, neither politics nor religion should be associated with education. This is how some states/schools have moved from a science based curriculum to creationism.
Wendy Regan May 03, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Jack, I couldn't care less about what you "get" or "don't get". Your sentence declaring that taxpac is "all about taking back our schools" proves my point. Jack....if taxpac wants to take back all of the schools, uhhhhh.....who has them? I don't recall getting a ransom note because someone took all of them. Jack, what's that $71,383.00 for that's earmarked "BOE" in the 2012-13 for again? (district website: WISD 2012/13 Budget Booklet pg 1)
Nomo Bigelow May 04, 2012 at 01:12 AM
Wendy, let me in. I want to be your friend. I want to guard your dreams and visions...
focus on education May 04, 2012 at 01:15 AM
Thank you to those who have provided info about CSA, I did not realize this group existed. After reviewing the website I will vote against any affiliation between CSA and the WISD. I respect religious freedom but not religious or political agendas in public education. Reading some of the articles posted on the CSA site raises concern over bias against science and education.
Jack Latch May 04, 2012 at 01:52 AM
Wendy, try to do your homework on Taxpac........that's where "taking back our schools" comes from.......try to see past your anger
Walter Isaacs May 04, 2012 at 03:16 AM
@Wendy, that is exactly it. At face value, I can agree with the values and principles listed by the Suffolk 9/12 project. And as Tea Partiers, they at the surface seem to be willing to talk. Check out Glenn Beck, founder of the 9/12 movement http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-glenn-beck-apologize-to-tennessean-whose-home-burned-down laughing at a man whose house was allowed to burn down because he had not paid the 75 fee beforehand. It seems as though the founder of the 9/12 project Is great at the Orwellian doublespeak. For instance, in his Labor Day post, you know when we celebrate the contributions of working people, he suggests we repeal the minimum wage (I bet those tchotchkes he wanted to sell were not tainted by the scourge of minimum wage.) Most Tea Partiers also think it is great that on average women make 77 cents for every dollar a man does for doing the same job. I love the women in my life. Many of them work and I don't think it is right that they are taken advantage of.
Walter Isaacs May 04, 2012 at 03:19 AM
Continued, my reference to the Labor Day post was referring to Mr. Montes' post.(Below) Another example of the twisted logic is the (Koch brother funded) obsession with the EPA, you know, because in TEA PARTY think, corporations put the welfare of the general public and our environment over profits, should be dismantled. They love freedom and liberty alright, they think they have the market cornered. http://westislip.patch.com/blog_posts/reinvigorate-the-labor-in-labor-day And if you get news from people like FOX, you are misinformed (when will we hear about US FOX properties in a phone hacking scandal? You know, violating the liberty freedom and privacy of the public.) Stephen Flanagan started TAXPAC here, focused solely on schools. Then, he broadened the horizons and basically renamed it CSA. It appears as though Mr. Montes has associated with this group for a number of years. They want to take the schools back from the boogie man like, the UN is doing a land grab and the tree huggers are fabricating climate change. If you don't have the tinfoil hat you cannot truly decode the message.
Rich May 04, 2012 at 10:20 AM
I may be wrong Jack but I believe that the anger in the community and from many parents comes from: Being mislead and lied to about the true deficit by the BOE Not allowing the community to vote on the best options for OUR schools The closing of two ES not one Still lying about the about of the savings being 3 million dollars when we keep on hearing about new expenses required to close the 2 ES The unfair redistricting of the Westbrook ES children The fact that the entire deficit was dumped on the ES children, BOCES, and a Dance program while the rest the MS, the HS, and all sports were untouched. The lack of honesty and transparency with this BOE The rude behavior of the BOE when someone tries to voice an opioion at the meetings. You know eye rolling, inattention, and texting. These are only a few of the complaints that come to mind and they are the reasons why many of us will be voting for a change on May 15.
Wendy Regan May 04, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Jack you're still not answering my question...Who is holding the schools hostage that taxpac is SUPPOSEDLY wanting to take them back from? I see nothing of the kind on taxpac's website. I also see nothing of the nonsense you're claiming about taxpac wanting to fire all of the teachers, close all of the schools and stop every after school program. Why all the lies Jack? Why?
Wendy Regan May 04, 2012 at 11:45 AM
I just reread my comment and had to laugh....yes, I fell for it. I am no longer commenting on the upcoming BOE vote or the budget vote. I'm wasting my time (and yours) commenting about a group which has no bearing on either WI situation whatsoever! Back to basics, let's start from the beginning...Are you happy with the direction education is heading in West Islip?
Rich May 04, 2012 at 12:15 PM
There also may be some anger about the Special Needs Program which had been very successful at Westbrook. The children in this program were promised that the program would stay at Westbrook and that they would graduate from the program at Westbrook. Simple promise to keep close Oquenok instead of Westbrook and lease Oquenok to BOCES. But instead Westbrook is being closed and the Special Needs Program which was then promised that they would be moved together to Oquenok are now to to scattered throughout the District. One program two broken promises.
Rich May 04, 2012 at 12:32 PM
What the the BOE has unfortunately done is to create a diivided community. The "Haves" and the "Have Nots". The "Haves" include the HS, the MS, and the Sports program. No cuts were made to these balance the budget. Then there are the "Have Nots" which include the ES, BOCES, and the our Dance program. These took the full brunt of the budget shortfall. So rather than making fair even cuts to all grades and programs, the BOE sacrificed our ES children, BOCES, and our Dance program. With the restoration of funding twice by the State, the cutting of the MTA Payroll tax, and maybe some serious negotiations with our administrators, Supervisors, and Teachers plus cuts to all grades and programs, just maybe the community could unite behind this BOE and our Superintendent to really save our schools for ALL our children, not just some.
Kerry Lyons May 04, 2012 at 02:06 PM
Our new slogan "West islip, the land of broken promises" :(
Kerry Lyons May 04, 2012 at 02:17 PM
I know its a little off topic but not for nothing, but I have to laugh at this "Top 10 people of 2011".....REALYY??? Steve Gellar ???? Almost every person on that list has overcome illness, injury or had a hand in helping those people. Outstanding community service! BUT... Steve Gellar, and I quote, "It's a role that makes it impossible to please everyone, but Gellar handled it with class and confidence in 2011." Rick Simon, and I quote again, "He helped guide the community to a school budget that was thoroughly approved by residents." Hmmmm.......Cant wait to see the Top 10 people of 2012
Carrie May 04, 2012 at 02:49 PM
I feel like I have been misled and lied to. It is time for a change.
Rich May 04, 2012 at 03:27 PM
Maybe Mr Montes will make the Top 10 People of 2012.
Wendy Regan May 04, 2012 at 05:09 PM
So Walter and Jack, the "boogie man" or "The United Nations" has our schools and someone needs to get them back? uhhhhh, ok.
Wendy Regan May 04, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Ok, Debra
Wendy Regan May 04, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Kerry, did you also read the sentence in the 'Top 10' article that said that no one in WI voted for him? That's right, no votes for him to be on WI's Top 10 list. Patch selected him and they say so in the article. Kerry did you also notice that the words in quotation marks being used in his popup advertising is not a direct quote from the article?
Walter Isaacs May 05, 2012 at 12:34 AM
@Wendy,I do not think the CSA would appoint me as their spokesperson. Mr. Montes has chosen not to address the questions, but we know he has read them. While I do not speak crackpot, I can translate for the CSA. http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/52051ec56f/airplane-oh-stewardess-i-speak-jive-from-dirttron They believe that "big government and the UN New World Order" Are out to control you. They cite the tax increases from "Chairman Obama" (most people have seen decreases). They cite health care reform rammed down the throats of Americans (passed into law by a congress elected by the people.) They have these notions that the government is taking away their guns and on and on. Usually, the facts directly contradict their slogans. But they watch FOX as their sole source and they are misinformed, seems as though by design. Great read here http://www.salon.com/2012/04/10/foxs_misinformation_effect/ And they believe that all politics are local the only place the people have to vote for spending is the school budget. 75% of the budget is salary, it is labor intensive. Cut the budget means cut salary which means cut programs and services. Are you listening Rich?
Chris May 05, 2012 at 01:06 AM
I block all ads so I had to turn off my adblocker just to see what everyone was talking about. However I did find it amusing that the ad leads to that page, then from there leads to another, via links in the articles, and so on. For someone paying to get his "one" ad up, he sure is getting a lot of good press on this patch.
Rich May 05, 2012 at 10:48 PM
At least Mr. Montes should make the Top Ten List if he can help us get out of the mess the present BOE has gotten us into.


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